About Fasting

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There has been a lot of question about fasting and a lot of ways that has been said about fasting for Christians. There is only one way which is not eating and not drinking, there is no Daniel way of fasting which is for example a week without eating steak only. In passages below we will learn more about fasting.

Zechariah 7:5-6

5 “Say to all the people of the land and to the priests, ‘When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months [a]these seventy years, was it actually for Me that you fasted? 6 When you eat and drink, [a]do you not eat for yourselves and do you not drink for yourselves?

God asks whether are we doing the right way of fasting, whether we are directing the fasting in the right direction, are we using fasting for the right reasons?

Joel 2:12-13

12 “Even now,” declares the LORD, “return to me with all your heart,  with fasting and weeping and mourning.”13 Rend your heart
and not your garments. Return to the LORD your God,  for he is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in love  and he relents from sending calamity.

Fasting is indicated being similar to regret, to wish that God can take away all the sins that we have done, to purify ourselves from the lust and all the deadly sins that we have done over and over again. God is gracious, He forgave our sins, He will always be there waiting with His warm love.

Judges 20:26

26 Then all the Israelites, the whole army, went up to Bethel, and there they sat weeping before the LORD. They fasted that day until evening and presented burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to the LORD.

So when is the right time to fast? When is the proper time? The key word is that day until evening means that after we ate our dinner, we don’t eat anything or drink anything until tomorrow evening. That is the proper way and time to fast.

Ezra 8:23

23 So we fasted and sought our God concerning this matter, and He [a]listened to our entreaty.

Matthew 4:1-4

Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” 4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’[b]

This two verse complete the answer of why we should fast. When we weakened ourselves and we left all of our lust and wants and needs behind for God, He listens, He answers. We should not live off of our needs and wants like money and all of the bling of the world. We live by His words.

This is a summary from Handoyo Santoso service from Gereja Kemah Tabernakel – 26th February 2012

Rely on Him

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Most of Christians can say it out loud that they believe in Him, but that’s not enough. If we want to get His blessing, if we want to experience God in our life, we need to rely on Him. Most of us got into the step one, which is, believe in God, but when trouble came we rely on other things first and didn’t put God as someone that we rely the most.

2 Chronicles 20:1-4

1 After this, the Moabites and Ammonites with some of the Meunites[a] came to wage war against Jehoshaphat. 2 Some people came and told Jehoshaphat, “A vast army is coming against you from Edom,[b] from the other side of the Dead Sea. It is already in Hazezon Tamar” (that is, En Gedi). 3 Alarmed, Jehoshaphat resolved to inquire of the LORD, and he proclaimed a fast for all Judah. 4 The people of Judah came together to seek help from the LORD; indeed, they came from every town in Judah to seek him.

Moab and Ammon were ambushing Jehoshapat from all sides. He got nowhere to go. What did he do? He relied on God. He believes that He is the only way out. No one else. No where else to go. But it’s not a sense of desperation but a sense of reliance that this problem can only be solved if he face it together with God, and together they did.

2 Chronicles 20:4-12

5 Then Jehoshaphat stood up in the assembly of Judah and Jerusalem at the temple of the LORD in the front of the new courtyard 6 and said:

“LORD, the God of our ancestors, are you not the God who is in heaven? You rule over all the kingdoms of the nations. Power and might are in your hand, and no one can withstand you. 7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend? 8 They have lived in it and have built in it a sanctuary for your Name, saying, 9 ‘If calamity comes upon us, whether the sword of judgment, or plague or famine, we will stand in your presence before this temple that bears your Name and will cry out to you in our distress, and you will hear us and save us.’

10 “But now here are men from Ammon, Moab and Mount Seir, whose territory you would not allow Israel to invade when they came from Egypt; so they turned away from them and did not destroy them. 11 See how they are repaying us by coming to drive us out of the possession you gave us as an inheritance. 12 Our God, will you not judge them? For we have no power to face this vast army that is attacking us. We do not know what to do, but our eyes are on you.”

He ask for His help and not only him, but he ask all of the men of Judah to fast and together ask for God’s blessing, and to rely on Him. So what did happen after that?

2 Chronicles 20:22-26

22 As they began to sing and praise, the LORD set ambushes against the men of Ammon and Moab and Mount Seir who were invading Judah, and they were defeated. 23 The Ammonites and Moabites rose up against the men from Mount Seir to destroy and annihilate them. After they finished slaughtering the men from Seir, they helped to destroy one another. 24 When the men of Judah came to the place that overlooks the desert and looked toward the vast army, they saw only dead bodies lying on the ground; no one had escaped. 25 So Jehoshaphat and his men went to carry off their plunder, and they found among them a great amount of equipment and clothing[d] and also articles of value—more than they could take away. There was so much plunder that it took three days to collect it. 26 On the fourth day they assembled in the Valley of Berakah, where they praised the LORD. This is why it is called the Valley of Berakah[e] to this day.

They sang praises, they put out their prayers, they rely on God to help them win the war and you know what? They did win. All of their enemies are dead, not even one alive. They earn more than what they can bring to their houses. That is what we will get if we trust and rely on Him. We will WIN and we will get more things than what we ever wanted.

This is a summary from Handoyo Santoso service from Gereja Kemah Tabernakel – 19th February 2012

Disclosure

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Earlier today, I posted an article regarding Apps Foundry acquiring MakeMac. It didn’t get any great reaction, perhaps the opposite. But since I’m not the one doing the investment, I can’t say anything towards this investment. I say, you, the avid readers of MakeMac be the judge.

Now move on to the East Ventures & Penn Olson status, especially me as an employee in both company. Jon Russell, as quoted on his blog, said that:

There’s no doubt that investment of some form was needed to get the blog to the next level, bring on permanent staff etc, but there is valid question as to why an East Ventures associate is onboard and writing about stories with conflicting interests?

To put this straight, I am hired as Penn Olson’s writer [this post is even linked by TechCrunch]before I’m an Associate at East Ventures. Even before Penn Olson getting an investment by East Ventures. Hence, I can safely say it’s not that East Ventures is putting their employee to control or putting content into Penn Olson’s mouth.

I am a blogger, I love writing.  I was actually trying to write my own blog before I’m doing this gig for Penn Olson. But then East Ventures planning to build an incubator and offered a chance to work together, then as a 19 years old looking for experience in the startup scene he loves, he accepted it, wrong? I believe anyone would accept the once in a lifetime chance. If you’re talking about people my age in Silicon Valley, this might not be surprising. But until this day, I’m still thankful to be able to do this.

Regarding me posting East Ventures related articles. What different does it make if I’m the one writing it then it got posted with other accounts/authors? There will still be skepticism regarding the EV-PO connection, another note, all of my posts get through 3 editors and Willis himself, so there is no room for error and bias. And in the past couple of months, probably from November, I have been the sole contributor for Penn Olson covering the whole nation of Indonesia. I am trying to find more writers to accompany me, but it is hard, ask DailySocial. Blogging in English isn’t easy, tech blogging? :-)

I guess I can call it a day and sleep now. The fight and the debate won’t be over, but I’m done talking about it over and over again. Thank you for your attention and time reading this. And yeah:

Full Disclosure : Joshua Kevin is an Associate at East Ventures and Contributor for Penn Olson covering Indonesia

Looking For Sponsors

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UPDATED: I have received more than one offers and thank you everyone for reading and ReTweeting or Sharing this post on their Facebook. Stanford, here I come! Thank you God!

Hi my blog readers or anyone that is reading this post, as the title suggest, I’m looking for sponsors.  I didn’t post anything about the Stanford ASES before here in my blog because if you looked at the picture above, I was hoping to get the scholarship from the U.S. Embassy. Unfortunately they chose only 2 people out of 22 excellent applicants as I quote their e-mail.

So, just to get to the main point. I’m looking for a company/a donor to sponsor my trip to Stanford and the fee to attend the summit. It is roughly US$ 2,500 but I will have all the bills submitted and return any change. How will my sponsor benefits from this?

  • I will write a blog post about my trip and mention the sponsor on it.
  • Actively talking about the sponsor/brand on my Facebook and Twitter.
  • I can even do a YouTube video talking about the trip with the sponsor logo on it.
  • More depending on what the sponsor demands.

 

The reason why am I doing this is that I really want to see for myself the Silicon Valley atmosphere and how the ecosystem works. I want to meet the successful and inspiring people over there and at the same time promoting what are we doing back here. And of course, when I’m back I want to share what I got in that trip to those who wants to know about it. I can just stop hoping and do nothing after being rejected by the U.S. Embassy but that’s not me, I just don’t accept NO as an answer. I simply want to help to boost entrepreneurship here, even if I can only do so little, I believe on a long run it will have an effect to the nation as a whole.

For those who are interested and looking for my CV+Application Letter+Recommendation Letter, please do e-mail me hello[at]joshuakev.in and for those who can’t help, you actually can help by spreading this post. Thank you for reading and have a great day!

Startup Asia Singapore 2012

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This post is a part of our coverage of Startups in Asia (Singapore), Penn Olson’s first tech conference. Our full coverage of the event can be found here, for our RSS feed, click here.

NOT! This is actually a post to sum up the Startup Asia, first conference that I’m in the organizing team and it was outside my home country. I might held the #StartupLokal 1st birthday party with a full day event but this was totally different beast all over again. This needs professional who has been in this kind of job for years. But then, we are a start-up, and we did learn a lot from our first experience.

I went to Singapore on 31st Jan, as early as I could because I won’t be able to spend my weekend over (Final Exams, fml) at the Lions. The flight arrived quite early, so thank you JetStar! And checked in at the V Hotel(Lavender MRT) – had a funny experience here, when I checked in apparently Minghao put me as Joshua Kevin instead of Kevin Tjong which was my name in my passport. I had to give out s$200 as a deposit to make sure it was really me who’s staying. Finished with that, I got up to my room and actually love it.

Had an e-mail sent to me to group up over at SMU, so I did and I finally met my editors at Penn Olson, which is Rick Martin, Steven Millward and Charlie Custer. We had a rehearsal for Startup Arena participants, we drilled them and I think these kinds of preparations which made our event is different than any other event. We want those who are up on the stage to be as best as possible. Done with that, we had our first team dinner, too bad the Biz Dev Chick couldn’t come. Had four pans of 12-inch-pizza together with Willis Wee, the editors, Minghao Teoh and Amelia Chen. After that, I thought the night was over, but apparently not. I went to The Studio with Joash and met Gabriel, Mohan, Dung and Claudia. We had some drinks and played the dice game! FYI, The Studio is owned by my fellow Indonesian – Angelina Pradana. Proud to met her, and proud to have a friend/entrepreneur/entertainer/drinking friend like her!

1st February, probably the toughest day of 4 days because this is the last day of preparation. We had start-ups who booked for booths coming to take a look and place their stuffs in their respective booths. Unfortunately, the start-ups came early, the booths weren’t prepared yet and so the booking should take place in a manual mode (someone look at a map, tell me what he/she wanted, I wrote down the number). Yet, there are start-ups who took the place without booking first to me, so it was quite a mess. Although it didn’t get to a brawl or shouts or something but we learned the most from it. We finally numbered the booths and they can just book the booth they want by writing the name of the start-ups on the paper pasted on it. In the afternoon, we had networking session/high tea with investors/overseas participants. It was fun, met NUS Enterprise directors who are taking care of Blk-71. Met some start-ups who are being incubated by JFDI Asia as well. And one more great thing is, to finally meet Dr Serkan Toto, which is one of my idols in the tech-blogging world. He was shocked to learn that I’m still in uni and haven’t even turned 20 yet. Went to The Studio again this night, got some pictures taken, not me but Angel, but yeah – my back was in the publication – so, I’m proud! :p

2nd February, the show finally begun. I was chosen to take care of slides, and working together with the sound engineer and lightning. Gabriel said to me my title is Event Production – quite cool, huh? So we had Dr. Lim Kuo Yi (CEO at Infocomm Investment), James Tan(Co-Founder of 55tuan), Discussion Panel on Starting up in Singapore, Dr Serkan Toto(TechCrunch contributor), Tetsuya Mori(Managing Director for DeNA Asia), Tatsuo Tsutsumi(Director of GREE Ventures), Discussion Panel on Cloud Computing and Entrepreneurship, and Startup Arena pitches part 1! Vibease took the climax from today by mixing Vibrator, Mobile App and Orgasm! (sex sells!) It ran smoothly although I made a tiny wee mistake and had fun being a bouncer as well earlier with Amelia and the volunteers! (P.S. Booth Babes ftw!) – Willis Wee had his birthday on this day, yet he chose to downplay it and focused on what is in front of him, making the event a success. Proud to be under his guidance! – Joash also had his birthday so there is Joash, Gab, Angel, Dung and more celebrating his birthday at The Studio (so this was my 3rd night in the row!). Had a couple of shots of tequila, HOT!

3rd February, the turnouts were as expected, maybe the late night networking took place, so a quarter of the participants didn’t make it until around lunch time. This day we had, Arvind Rajan(LinkedIn APAC VP), Steven Goh(mig33), James Tong(Partner at Gobi Ventures), Anuj Khanna Sohum(Affle Group), Angeline Tham and Tian Qiuyan (Co-Founders of Sold.SG), then it went off to the Startup Arena part 2. Had some more networking and chats with prominent people on Singapore. Exchanged half of my stock of namecards, which can only mean great. Then, we announced our winner for Startup Arena, Teamie.

A sum-up of Startups in Asia Singapore and De-brief of it was published. Yet, it couldn’t really picture what I got from this event. We, Penn Olson team, finally met each other and was in one room working hard for our event. (Met Yukari and Masaru too!) Make lots of friends over, not just for business but also for fun. The volunteers especially are kind and definitely would love to catch up with them. Some stats for those who love it: 800+ participants, 19 start-ups pitched for Startup Arena, 50 start-ups booked our booths, got sponsored by GREE, DeNA, Lenovo, Nokia, SingTel, iTwin, SkySQL, Monster.com, B Dash Ventures, Gumi, Crystal Horse Investments, Amazon Web Services. Quite a feat for our first event! Can’t wait to announce our next city! And thanks for reading!

Hey January

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A great, hectic, busy but still great first month of the great year ahead. Summing up what happened over the past month:

  • Celebrated the New Year together with my family at my uncle’s house around Ancol area so the fireworks are really close and pretty because we did climb up to the rooftop. (Don’t do this at home, except if you actually have one that you can comfortably came up to)
  • Minor project defended. Lecturer fucked us up. Got C as a result of weeks of all-nighter. FML, right? That is one of the reason I don’t really care much about grades anymore.
  • Held the third Jakarta Ventures Night which is JVN 2012. Had some fun as we hosted 30-40 Japanese investors, entrepreneurs and delegates from a total of 100+ invite-only guests. Hired Police Riders to open the road for the bus to go through which was a great experience for them. Over 10+ start-ups pitched and held the East Ventures Alpha graduation day as well here.
  • Went to Purwokerto for the first time as part of the Telkomsel Smart Camp for TSC – spoke in front of 300 high school students and most of them were questioning how can I worked for two companies in Singapore while still studying. Answered with “Do 200% of great work, and people will pay attention to you. Money follows great work, always.”
  • Attended Boost Conference (Jan 17th-18th) which have founding team of YouTube and Kiva on stage. As well some big names such as Aki Sano (Founder of CookPad – IPOed in Japan), Ariawan (Co-Founder of FlutterScape), Jameson Hsu(Co-Founder Mochi Media) and more. Props to Ryu Kawano and the organizing team for this first event by them.
  • Came to Jogjakarta for the first time for Gamelan4th meetup. It was an eye-opening experience as I met some great game developers that is still very raw and saw so much potential. Presented East Ventures Alpha second batch program as well there.  Ate Gudeg, but unfortunately didn’t get to Candi Borobudur/Candi Prambanan. Oh yeah, it was also my first time going outside the city through the 3rd Terminal of Soekarno-Hatta.
  • Had such a great Finnish to the month(pun intended) as I attended launch of Blaast, Nokia Asha and had a private lunch with the Rovio CMO – Peter Vesterbacka himself which resulted the best scoop/post on my whole career as a tech blogger.
  • Flown to Singapore for Startup Asia Singapore 2012!

Although I missed a service in January, and the blog isn’t updated as much as I wanted to, but I think I have shown some improvement. Hopefully I will have an even more lovely February!

God Knows What We Need

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In life, we always ask a lot of things. Whether it’s the things that we want or the things that we actually need. The important thing is actually the latter rather the former. In today’s service, God teaches us that He knew what we need, and how He helped us.

Matthew 37-38

He took Peter and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled. 38 Then he said to them, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.”

Here is a scene before God was arrested and then crucified to atone our sins. He isn’t afraid but in this verse, He wants to teach us that in our sorrow, in our suffering we need a friend. We need someone to accompany us. For example, if we are sick and if our friends come to visit us. It’s not the things that they brought that make us happy, it’s their presence and us chatting with them. The couple of verse after this one shows that even when God asked them to accompany Him, they or in some cases, we, failed his trust to do so.

Genesis 26:29-33

Once when Jacob was cooking some stew, Esau came in from the open country, famished. 30 He said to Jacob, “Quick, let me have some of that red stew! I’m famished!” 31 Jacob replied, “First, sell me your birthright.” 32 “Look, I am about to die,” Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?” 33 But Jacob said, “Swear to me first.” So he swore an oath to him, selling his birthright to Jacob.

This is a famous verse where Jacob earns his brother birthright but also it pictures something different. In this scene, Esau(pictured as us) needs something, and he even said that he could die if he didn’t get it. Yet, Jacob(people/friends) used our needs and took advantage of it to gain something for himself. This happens quite a lot in real life, where when someone needs something, say farmers in the villages, the loan shark took advantage of it and put out crazy interest. So make sure you share your problems to the right person, beware/be careful that someone can do it to you, except God.

Exodus 17:10-13

10Joshua led the attack as Moses had commanded, while Moses, Aaron, and Hur stood on the hilltop. 11The Israelites out-fought the Amalekites as long as Moses held up his arms, but they started losing whenever he had to lower them. 12Finally, Moses was so tired that Aaron and Hur got a rock for him to sit on. Then they stood beside him and supported his arms in the same position until sunset. 13That’s how Joshua defeated the Amalekites.

Sometimes we want something or we need something. People knew it, but they don’t really know what we really need. For example, we love shoes, but what if your friends gave you shoes that are too big for you or too small. That doesn’t fulfill your needs right? This verse shows us that Aaron and Hur helps Moses, and they understand what he needs, and in the end everyone is happy because Joshua won the war. If there’s no Aaron and Hur, everyone would be defeated instead.

1 Kings 19:3-8

3 Elijah was afraid[a] and ran for his life. When he came to Beersheba in Judah, he left his servant there, 4 while he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness. He came to a broom bush, sat down under it and prayed that he might die. “I have had enough, LORD,” he said. “Take my life; I am no better than my ancestors.” 5Then he lay down under the bush and fell asleep. All at once an angel touched him and said, “Get up and eat.” 6 He looked around, and there by his head was some bread baked over hot coals, and a jar of water. He ate and drank and then lay down again.7 The angel of the LORD came back a second time and touched him and said, “Get up and eat, for the journey is too much for you.” 8 So he got up and ate and drank. Strengthened by that food, he traveled forty days and forty nights until he reached Horeb, the mountain of God.

God understands what Elijah needs. He was afraid, he was hungry, he doesn’t have any strength anymore to continue. God made something impossible happen for him, he is served by bread and a jar of water, two of things that are definitely didn’t came from this world because it is impossible for humans to have those in the middle of a desert. And what happened after? He traveled 40 days and 40 nights. HE understand what WE need, and HE fulfills it so WE can continue our life, and even greater one each time.

John 20:19-20

19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.

God’s disciples were afraid that time and NO ONE can save them. No one can provides safety, or something to beat the afraidness in them. Then, God shows up, He knows that they are in fear, they don’t have someone to rely on. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. So are we when He fulfilled our needs. We will feel overjoyed!

Philippians 4:19

And my God will meet all your needs according to his glorious riches in Christ Jesus

And HE will fulfill/meet ALL of our NEEDS. When or where can you find someone that says that to you? He is the one that is able to do that. Knowing what our needs are, meeting them in a right moment and in a right place, without mocking us or taking advantage of our needs. God knew what we need, and He is there for you every time, because He has all the things that we need and in Jesus we trust.

This is a summary from Handoyo Santoso service from Gereja Kemah Tabernakel – 12th February 2012

About Failure

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We all have experienced failure in life, at least once. Whether it’s an exam, driver’s test, relationships, business deals or even tougher ones like health problems and marriage. So what does it means for us? Do we surrender and just act nothing to the failure? A lot of people said that we have failed because we lack skills, experience and the will power to do it. So then should we just try it again when we have it all? Nope. Why? Let’s start with a verse:

Luke 5:1-3

One day as Jesus was standing by the Lake of Gennesaret with the people crowding around him and listening to the word of God 2 he saw at the water’s edge two boats, left there by the fishermen, who were washing their nets. 3 He got into one of the boats, the one belonging to Simon, and asked to put out little from the shore. Then he sat down and taught the people from the boat.

Jesus saw Simon as an experienced fishermen with skills, yet he lacks faith in God. He chose to got into Simon’s boat to give out God’s words to people and also to Simon.

Luke 5:4-7

When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, “Put out into deep water and let down the nets for a catch.” 5 Simon answered, “Master, we’ve worked hard all night and haven’t caught anything. But because you say so, I will let down the nets.” 6 When they had done so, they caught such a large number of fish that their nets began to break. 7 So they signaled their partners in the other boat to come and help them, and they came and filled both boats so full that they began to sink.

Simon with all of his experience has been failing to catch a single fish all night, and God told him to set sail in a time where it’s unusual for fishermen to do their job. Yet after receiving God’s words, he began to believe and has a faith in God. The result? He received multiple returns of what he usually got with all his experience and skills, and that is what we will get if we put God first before our experience and skills. With God, there is no dead end, with God, your win is expected and being prepared by Him.

2 Chronicles 13:13-14

Now Jeroboam had sent troops around to the rer, so that while he was in front of Judah the ambush was behind them. Judah turned and saw that they were being attacked at both front and rear. Then they cried out to the LORD. The priests blew their trumpets

In this verse, we clearly learned that we have faced this in life probably more than once. We faced the impossible, the odds are against us, it’s easy for us to just surrender and receive what we afraid of, which is losing and the failure itself. Israel was turned into two kingdom fighting each other, Jeroboam was a part of Israel which at that time boasts more power than Judah. As we see it, Judah was faced with the impossible, Jeroboam has all the skills and power, Judah turned into God, they cried it out, the priests blew the trumpets.

2 Chronicles 13:15-17

and the men of Judah raised the battle cry. At the sound of their battle cry, God routed Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah. 18 The Israelites fled before Judah, and God delivered them into their hands. 17 Abijah and his men inflicted heavy losses on them, so that there were five hundred thousand casualties among Israel’s able men. 18 The men of Israel were subdued on that occasion, and the men of Judah were victorious because they relied on the LORD, the God of their fathers.

I’d like to put a pressing issue against the last word of the last verse. And the men of Judah were victorious because they relied on the LORD, the God of their fathers. They RELIED on the LORD, and not themselves, not their skills nor their experience. They put God first, and God made a certain failure into a huge win.

Jeremiah 17:5-8

This is what the LORD says:

“Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD. 6 He will be like a bush in the wastelands; he will not see prosperity when it comes. He will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives. 7 “But blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him. He will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit.”

This truly sums up what this post is about. Don’t trust human’s strength, even our own strength to face our problems. Human has limitations, God never has one, and never will. For those who did, they won’t even see prosperity when it comes, how poor is that? But if you trust God, you will be blessed, you will always be producing the goods of God and people will see that in you. God bless you!

This is a summary from Handoyo Santoso service from Gereja Kemah Tabernakel – 5th February 2012